Posts Tagged ‘Eurovision running order’

Will Tomorrow’s Eurovision Semi Final Allocation Draw Spell Doomsday Blues for Ireland’s Eurovision Hopes?

January 29, 2024

Adrian Kavanagh, 29 January 2024

Figure 1: Countries assigned to different “pots” for the semi-final allocation draw for Eurovision Song Contest 2024 (Australia will be in Pot 2)

The semi-final allocation draw for the 2024 Eurovision Song Contest will take place in Malmö on 30 January. This will tell us what countries (out of the 31 countries that do not qualify directly for the Final) will take part in Semi Final 1 (on Tuesday 7 May) or Semi Final 2 (on Thursday 9 May), which semi-final will be allocated to the “Big 5″/Host countries (Sweden, United Kingdom, Spain, Germany, Italy and France) to vote in, and whether a country gets to vote in the first half or second half of the semi-final that they have been drawn into.

The 31 countries that will be taking part in the semi-finals have been allocated to one of five pots. In previous years six pots were involved, so this overall reduction in the numbers of pots does reflect the overall drop in the number of countries taking part in Eurovision over the past few years – 43 countries took part in the 2018 contest in Lisbon, for instance. The pots are drawn up on the basis of post voting trends in order to, as the official Eurovision website puts it, “reduce the chance of so-called neighbourly voting and increase suspense in the Semi-Finals”.

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Pot Luck? Pot Lucked Out! The Draw that Ireland Needed to Get in Tonight’s Eurovision Semi Final Allocation Draw… And Didn’t!

January 31, 2023

Adrian Kavanagh, 31st January 2023

Tonight the semi-final allocation draw for the 2023 Eurovision Song Contest will take place in Liverpool. This will tell us what countries (out of the 31 countries that do not qualify directly for the Final) will take part in Semi Final 1 (on Tuesday 9 May) or Semi Final 2 (on Thursday 11 May), which semi-final will be allocated to the “Big 5″/Host countries (Ukraine, United Kingdom, Spain, Germany, Italy and France) to vote in, and whether a country gets to vote in the first half or second half of the semi-final that they have been drawn into.

Figure 1: Countries assigned to different “pots” for the semi-final allocation draw for Eurovision Song Contest 2023 (Australia will be in Pot 2)
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Carlsberg don’t do Eurovision Semi Final Allocation Draws but if they did… What does the 2022 Eurovision Semi Final Allocation Draw mean for Ireland

January 25, 2022

Adrian Kavanagh, 25th January 2022

The semi final allocation draw for the 2022 Eurovision Song Contest took place earlier today and it was generally a very good one for Ireland.

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Running Orders for 2021 Eurovision Semi Finals – Who Wins/Loses?

March 30, 2021

Adrian Kavanagh, 30th March 2021

The producers of the 2021 Eurovision Song Contest (taking place in Rotterdam in May) have just announced the running orders for the two semi finals. As is always the case, some countries have fared better than others with these semi final allocation decisions.

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Eurovision Semi Final Allocation Draw 2020: What does it mean for Ireland

January 28, 2020

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Adrian Kavanagh, 28th January 2020

Earlier this afternoon the semi final allocation draw for the 2020 Eurovision Song Contest took place in Rotterdam. What did this mean for Ireland? This post will tease out the draw in terms of what was good, not-so-good and bad about this in terms of shaping Ireland’s chances of qualifying for this year’s Final. (more…)

The 2019 Eurovision Song Contest Semi Final Draw

January 28, 2019

Adrian Kavanagh, 28th January 2019

Big 5/Host countries: Spain, Israel, France will show/vote in Semi Final 1, while United Kingdom, Italy and Germany show/vote in Semi Final 2.

 

The Draw: 

This is a bit of a mixed bag from an Irish perspective. The big win here is the fact that the United Kingdom will be voting in this semi final. Other plus points include the fact that a number of other countries who are “relatively” generous to Ireland in terms of Eurovision points are also voting in this semi final, including Denmark, Malta, Latvia and Lithuania, as well as Sweden, Norway, Switzerland, The Netherlands and Romania. However, on the negative side of things, this semi final includes a number of countries that have very strong qualification records – including a number of countries that have qualified from every semi final, bar one, since 2004 – Sweden, Romania, Russia and Azerbaijan – and a number of other countries that have qualified from most of the semi finals that they have taken part in (especially over the last ten years); Norway, Armenia and Denmark. Other countries, such as Austria, Moldova and The Netherlands, have enjoyed a run of good form in the contest in recent years, while it remains to be seen if this year’s high profile X Factor Malta selection process can bring about an improved performance this year for Malta.

Discussing the 2018 Eurovision Semi Final Running Order Allocations

April 3, 2018

Adrian Kavanagh, 3rd April 2018

The running order allocations for the two semi finals of the 2018 Eurovision Song Contest in Kyiv (Ukraine) were announced this morning.

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This is of interest, as one of the factors that can shape a country’s hopes of winning, or doing well in, the contest is the position in the contest running order that they get to perform in, with the usual rule of thumb suggesting that a later draw position will significantly help a country’s hopes of doing well. Positions in the running order had traditionally been decided by a draw up to the 2012 contest. But since the 2012 contest in Malmo, participating countries have just drawn to decide whether they will perform in the first half or second half of a contest, with the Host TV producers then deciding the running order based on what combination of entries works the best in terms of producing a better TV show. (The Host country is the only one that draws to decide their position in the Final running order and Portugal drew the eight position in the Final running order a few weeks earlier.) That practice has also been used this year and the running order allocations for the two semi finals of the 2018 Eurovision Song Contest were released earlier today by the host broadcaster RTP(more…)

Ireland’s Eurovision 2018 Semi Final Draw: “A lot done, more to do…”

January 29, 2018

Adrian Kavanagh, 29th January 2018

So, from the perspective of Ireland’s hopes of qualifying for the 2018 Final, how good was today’s Eurovision semi-final allocation draw in Lisbon? The initial reaction was very positive, especially given that the United Kingdom was drawn to vote in the semi-final that Ireland is performing in. But was it really that good? It’s time to unpick the 2018 Semi Final draw, especially with reference to the potential selections that I had earlier identified as Ireland’s dream draw and night draw, as I discussed in greater detail in the previous post. (more…)

The Eurovision Song Contest Final: The Luck of the Draw…or the Running Order?

May 12, 2017

Adrian Kavanagh, 12th May 2017

Song, performance and staging matter in terms of ultimate Eurovision success. “Diaspora” and “friends and neighbours” voting can also help a country’s prospects of doing well in the contest, though of course not in themselves proving sufficient to win the contest for those countries that can especially benefit from these voting trends. But another key factor that can shape a country’s hopes of winning the contest is the position in the contest running order that they get to perform in, with the usual rule of thumb suggesting that a later draw position will significantly help a country’s hopes of doing well in the contest. Positions in the running order had traditionally been decided by a draw up to the 2012 contest. But since the 2012 contest in Malmo, participating countries have just drawn to decide whether they will perform in the first half or second half of a contest, with the host TV producers then deciding the running order based on what combination of entries works the best in terms of producing a better TV show. (The host country is the only one that draws to decide their position in the Final running order).  (more…)

2017 Eurovision Final results (televote!) estimate: Can Italy (or Portugal or Bulgaria…) stop a seventh Swedish win?

May 12, 2017

Adrian Kavanagh, 12th May 2017

In these past, I used this model to successfully predict the Azerbaijan win at the 2011 contest,  the Denmark win in 2013, the Sweden win at the 2015 contest and Russia’s win in the televote at the 2016 Final, while this same model correctly identified 17 of the 20 qualifiers from the 2015 semi finals (although it proved decidedly less effective in predicting the 2016 qualifiers and predicted only 15 out 20 qualifiers for the 2017 semi finals). Now that we know the running order for the 2016 Eurovision Final I am going to use this to try and tease out who the likely winners will be of the 2015 contest will be. There are, however, a variety of factors (including the problems in terms of predicting the 2016 and 2017 semi final qualifiers) that suggest that the 2017 Final model may not be as accurate as in previous years (or at least the years leading up to the 2016 contest). The changes being made to the voting process in 2016 effectively mean that each country’s jury vote score and public vote/televote score will be treated as separate entities for this year’s contest – i.e. each country will award two separate scores – a jury vote score and a televote/public vote score. It is the latter of these two different scores/rankings (i.e. the televote score) that this model should be most effective in predicting.

With the numbers crunched, Italy, Sweden, Bulgaria and Portugal stand on top of the pile. Some of these countries have relatively good positions in the contest running order, some have a tendency to do well in terms of “friends and neighbours” and “diaspora” voting and all of these enjoy very high rankings in the bookies odds.  Other countries/finalists, such as Belgium, Romania, the United Kingdom, Armenia and Croatia, also figure strongly in relation to these factors, or some of these factors. But be wary!

  • This model cannot take account of the impact of the actual performances on both Final nights (including the Jury Final on the Friday night and Public/Televised Final on the Saturday night).
  • As the voting history statistics are based mainly on past televoting trends, the model cannot take account for the voting decisions of the highly influential professional juries, who have as much bearing on the Final result as the televotes have.
  • The voting history statistics for Australia are quite limited and based on just three contests (2015 Final, 2016 Semi Final 2 and 2016 Final) – contests that Australia finished 5th, 1st and 2nd in respectively – meaning that the Australia vote estimates are somewhat over-estimated as regards this particular factor (especially with countries such as Russia and Serbia not taking part in this year’s Final).

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